Cry Baby Wha Pedal No Sound After Click

Blaoskaak

Hi everyone!

I bought a used wah wah pedal, just it doesn't work. Of is a Crybaby gcb95.

I place information technology in front of my amp. When i identify it Betwixt en turn in the amp, i go no sound at all. Only a loud hum. It does not make a diffrence if the pedal is on or off.
As well have to push the pedal all way down to hitting the on/off switch.

I am not using it with a battery. I have it removed and apply a 9v cablevision.

Who can help me. I can solder if it must.

Thanks!

junk notes

Is y'all power supply 200mA equivalent or better? Exercise you have access to a contrary polarity cablevision?

DaDoc · Oct 21, 2020

Sounds similar maybe your power supply or power cable may not exist compatible with the Wah.

Unplug the power supply, put in a battery, fire it up and run across what happens..If the problem is still at that place it'south likely the Wah itself.

When I first scored my Voodoo Labs Ac power supply I had a similar problem with trying to use some of my older pedals with it. A lot of stompboxes aren't compatible with that particular unit and you may have something similar going on.

Gunner64

And Make sure your p.due south. is compatible polarity wise with the wah.

Blaoskaak

Cheers very much for your reactions!

Information technology works on battery, do I need a dissimilar 9v cable for this pedal as for my other pedals?
I as well don't like the sound with the wah. the audio is distorted and goes much softer when the pedal is up (on) . When the pedal is all the way down (off????) information technology looks similar the pedal is always on too. Have no idea if it can be turned off?

I have already read on the net that there are different mods, to brand the pedal amend. Anyone familiar with it?

I would love to hear your opinions.

zachman · October 21, 2020

re: mods: Just put a boss tuner, or other buffered pedal later on the wah, and you'll be fine.

Make sure you 'click' the switch to activate/de-active the wah sternly. If information technology's sort of stuck betwixt off/on it'll audio like rats sucked on it. Push it with your finger on/off (click/click) to ensure solid a printing

Also, Make certain you have the correct adapter, as the housing on what may expect to be a right voltage/power spec adaptor-- may still be a bit besides thick or too loose to fit snuggly and properly, in the wah's adaptor jack.

Not sure if you're using other pedals simultaneously or not, but if yous are-- some things to consider:

A wah is a filter. Most guys tend to plug their guitar straight into their wah, then other pedals then their amp'due south input. I put the wah further down the chain-- after OD's, Distortion, phaser, flanger, etc., then information technology has a more harmonically rich signal to filter; endeavour experimenting. Y'all'll discover a preference.

If information technology still sounds skinny and lame after testing the switch, while using a battery-- instead of the power supply. Alter the switch 1st. Could be the pot, just attempt that 1st.

If y'all or someone else plugged in, for example an AC power adaptor instead of the right DC power adaptor, you could take fried the pedal. I've seen guys do that. Hopefully not

Good Luck

Blaoskaak

I am non familiar with a buffered pedal. Does it make sure the volume doesn't drop off when I use the wah? I also bought a true bypass modern with led light. This will be a big comeback.

I have more pedals.
- mooer reecho
- guitarslinger rb1011
- wah wah

I as well found out that I am using the wrong 9v cables. I have an ac 9v for my pedals and I need dc 9v. Didn't know that. Luckily i practise now!

Give thanks you all for your help!

zachman · Oct 22, 2020

I am not familiar with a buffered pedal. Does it make sure the book doesn't drop off when I utilise the wah? I besides bought a true bypass modernistic with led light. This will exist a big improvement.
I have more pedals.
- mooer reecho
- guitarslinger rb1011
- wah wah

I also found out that I am using the wrong 9v cables. I have an ac 9v for my pedals and I need dc 9v. Didn't know that. Luckily i do now!

Cheers all for your assistance!

Good matter You didn't use the 9vAC adaptors or you'd have fried the pedals. Glad I mentioned it. Exist Careful. The details are important.

If you have a bunch of pedals continued together and the added cable length to the amp, tin brand it sound like there's a blanket over your sound, a buffer will fix that like a Boss TU3 tuner or Whatever Boss pedal last in the chain dorsum to the amp.

From Custom Audio Electronics' website re: Buffers and True Bypass

What are buffers and how are they used?
Buffers are extremely important in a multi-component organisation. They are often misunderstood and often get a bad rap by those who are uninformed. In a CAE system, a buffer is a unity gain (input level equals output level) impedance converting circuit. It essentially protects your loftier impedance guitar output (or any other high impedance source, such as an amps' effects loop send) from being loaded downwards by the input it is connected to. In effect, it converts loftier impedance to depression, which means subsequent stages are and then driven by a low impedance source (the buffer'due south output). High impedance sources such as your guitar's output (assuming you have passive pickups) has very trivial current drive capability and it'due south indicate is subject area to a harsh environment once it leaves the guitar. You already know the agin affect a long cablevision has on your tone. Same matter happens if yous pass your bespeak through a bunch of effects pedals. Fifty-fifty if they have "true bypass" (an ugly, over-used term), each 1 volition suck a little more of your indicate along with the cables and connectors, mainly due to capacitive loading of your high impedance guitar bespeak. The end result is a muffled weak bespeak that lacks clarity. But once your high impedance guitar signal hits a properly designed buffer with a high input impedance, the buffer takes over, and uses its higher electric current capability (remember, its an active circuit that requires a power supply) to bulldoze all subsequent stages, thus preserving your musical instrument's tone. This brings us to buffer quality. Buffers come in all types of designs, from discrete transistor, op-amp, to esoteric tube designs. All accept their own unique sonic stamp. At CAE nosotros use the op-amp approach. It has served united states well for years, is low noise, and is extremely transparent to our ears. Buffers often get blamed for causing an overly bright audio, but we feel if its designed properly, any perceived "brightness" is because now the guitar is not being loaded downwards past subsequent stages!

Buffers tin can cause problems, likewise. There are some effects devices that don't like to run across the low output impedance of a buffer. These are typically discrete transistor designed fuzz circuits (such as the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face). They react meliorate to the high impedance output of the guitar. In fact, the guitar output, cable and input stage of the Fuzz Confront complete a excursion that is highly dependent of those three components to work correctly. Fuzz Faces clean up nicely when you lot whorl back the guitar volume control... non so if a buffer is between the guitar and Fuzz Face input. So if you accept a pedal board with a Fuzz Face on it , put it commencement! Other pedals may react the same mode. Experiment to see what works all-time for you. Go along in mind all active pedals (such as Dominate, Ibanez, etc...) human activity as buffers and will impart their own sonic stamp even when bypassed. This is what started the whole "true bypass" (ugh! that term again) craze. See? As well much of a good thing can be "bad". Which brings us to how we utilize buffers in CAE custom switchers. We only utilize buffers where absolutely necessary. Typically, in a pedal based system nosotros will non buffer until later on the starting time 4-5 loops, which is commonly just prior to sending the signal downward to the pedal board (via a long cable run, hence the need to buffer) to hit the wah/book pedals. Any more than than 4 or v loops, and the guitar signal may exist affected by capacitive loading. And so the first few loops is where y'all would put any impedance sensitive effects. This likewise means your guitar will become through fuzz, overdrive or distortion pedals BEFORE the wah. We prefer this guild considering the wah then has a more harmonically rich bespeak to filter. Try it yourself. Of class, if a specific order is required, we will do everything we can to brand information technology happen. Buffers are also necessary to drive isolation transformers, since the relatively low principal impedance of the transformers may be detrimental to whatever circuit is feeding information technology. This is also why amp splitter circuits must exist buffered. Yous can't drive multiple amps with a relatively loftier impedance source. So there usually is a buffer somewhere in the output stage of your custom switcher. That's usually it. two places minimum. At that place may be more active stages depending on your system requirements.

Blaoskaak · Oct 24, 2020

That is a DC ability supply, not an Ac ability supply and so that'south lucky

I did some research about the tuners, but i am a bit dislocated. It is a device that helps tuning my guitar. How can that help for the tone of my guitar?

I accept a cable from my amp to the kickoff pedal that is 6.5ft then i have iii pedals.

The rb1011 pedal
Mooer reecho
Wah pedal.
I recently bought joyo jf12 octave

From my last pedal to guitar i use a 16.5ft cable.
Full with the patch cables is about 25ft. Do i need a buffered pedal or tuner pedal then?

EDIT: i just bought a dominate tuner tu3. Going to pick it up this afternoon.

yladrd61

Cheers very much for your reactions!
It works on bombardment, practise I need a different 9v cable for this pedal as for my other pedals?
I also don't like the sound with the wah. the sound is distorted and goes much softer when the pedal is up (on) . When the pedal is all the way down (off????) it looks like the pedal is e'er on besides. Have no idea if information technology tin can exist turned off?

I accept already read on the internet that there are dissimilar mods, to make the pedal better. Anyone familiar with it?

I would beloved to hear your opinions.

I notice virtually of the modern dunlop "Crybaby","Vox""Clyde McCoy" wahs all audio like (#@*&), there are some great wah mod kits out in that location that tin get close to the audio of the original Italian "Jen" wahs.

Blaoskaak

I find most of the modern dunlop "Crybaby","Vox""Clyde McCoy" wahs all sound like (#@*&), there are some great wah modernistic kits out there that can get close to the sound of the original Italian "Jen" wahs.

Tanks for your input. I similar the wah from stevie ray vaughan.

When i don't like my wah after the mods i'll buy a meliorate one. I got this i very cheap.

yladrd61

Tanks for your input. I similar the wah from stevie ray vaughan.
When i don't like my wah afterward the mods i'll purchase a meliorate i. I got this 1 very cheap.

When y'all are set bank check out a guy chosen Joe Gagan "kalena_5" on ebay, he has the best selection of drop in mod kits for the Dunlop wahs.

yladrd61

Good matter Yous didn't utilise the 9vAC adaptors or you lot'd have fried the pedals. Glad I mentioned it. Be Careful. The details are important.
If yous have a agglomeration of pedals connected together and the added cablevision length to the amp, can make information technology sound similar in that location's a blanket over your sound, a buffer will gear up that like a Boss TU3 tuner or Any Boss pedal last in the chain back to the amp.

From Custom Audio Electronics' website re: Buffers and True Bypass

What are buffers and how are they used?
Buffers are extremely important in a multi-component system. They are oftentimes misunderstood and frequently get a bad rap by those who are uninformed. In a CAE system, a buffer is a unity proceeds (input level equals output level) impedance converting excursion. It essentially protects your high impedance guitar output (or any other high impedance source, such as an amps' furnishings loop ship) from being loaded down past the input information technology is connected to. In effect, it converts loftier impedance to low, which means subsequent stages are and so driven by a low impedance source (the buffer's output). High impedance sources such as your guitar's output (assuming you have passive pickups) has very little current bulldoze capability and it'due south betoken is subject to a harsh environment in one case information technology leaves the guitar. You already know the agin affect a long cable has on your tone. Aforementioned thing happens if y'all pass your signal through a bunch of effects pedals. Even if they have "truthful bypass" (an ugly, over-used term), each one volition suck a niggling more of your signal along with the cables and connectors, mainly due to capacitive loading of your loftier impedance guitar betoken. The finish event is a muffled weak betoken that lacks clarity. But once your high impedance guitar betoken hits a properly designed buffer with a loftier input impedance, the buffer takes over, and uses its higher current capability (call back, its an active excursion that requires a power supply) to bulldoze all subsequent stages, thus preserving your instrument's tone. This brings us to buffer quality. Buffers come in all types of designs, from discrete transistor, op-amp, to esoteric tube designs. All have their own unique sonic stamp. At CAE we use the op-amp approach. It has served u.s.a. well for years, is low dissonance, and is extremely transparent to our ears. Buffers often get blamed for causing an overly bright sound, but nosotros experience if its designed properly, any perceived "brightness" is because now the guitar is not being loaded down by subsequent stages!

Buffers can cause problems, too. There are some furnishings devices that don't like to come across the low output impedance of a buffer. These are typically discrete transistor designed fuzz circuits (such as the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face). They react improve to the high impedance output of the guitar. In fact, the guitar output, cablevision and input phase of the Fuzz Confront complete a excursion that is highly dependent of those three components to work correctly. Fuzz Faces clean up nicely when you roll back the guitar volume control... not so if a buffer is between the guitar and Fuzz Face input. So if y'all have a pedal board with a Fuzz Face on it , put information technology first! Other pedals may react the same way. Experiment to see what works all-time for yous. Keep in mind all active pedals (such equally Boss, Ibanez, etc...) act as buffers and will impart their own sonic stamp even when bypassed. This is what started the whole "truthful bypass" (ugh! that term again) craze. See? Also much of a good thing can be "bad". Which brings u.s.a. to how nosotros employ buffers in CAE custom switchers. Nosotros but apply buffers where absolutely necessary. Typically, in a pedal based system we volition not buffer until afterwards the beginning 4-5 loops, which is usually just prior to sending the signal down to the pedal board (via a long cable run, hence the need to buffer) to striking the wah/volume pedals. Any more than 4 or five loops, and the guitar bespeak may exist affected by capacitive loading. So the beginning few loops is where you would put whatsoever impedance sensitive effects. This also ways your guitar will become through fuzz, overdrive or distortion pedals BEFORE the wah. We prefer this social club because the wah so has a more harmonically rich signal to filter. Try it yourself. Of class, if a specific order is required, we volition do everything we tin can to make it happen. Buffers are besides necessary to drive isolation transformers, since the relatively low principal impedance of the transformers may be detrimental to whatsoever circuit is feeding it. This is also why amp splitter circuits must be buffered. You tin't drive multiple amps with a relatively high impedance source. And so there normally is a buffer somewhere in the output stage of your custom switcher. That's unremarkably it. 2 places minimum. There may be more active stages depending on your system requirements.

Of form just equally a fleck of irony the Fuzz Confront is a true bypass result. Sometimes a buffer can exist useful if you want to run a wah in front end of a Fuzz Face and still have a useable sweep.

zachman · Oct 25, 2020

I did some research about the tuners, but i am a bit confused. It is a device that helps tuning my guitar. How can that help for the tone of my guitar?
I have a cablevision from my amp to the beginning pedal that is 6.5ft then i have 3 pedals.

The rb1011 pedal
Mooer reecho
Wah pedal.
I recently bought joyo jf12 octave

From my final pedal to guitar i use a 16.5ft cable.
Total with the patch cables is about 25ft. Do i need a buffered pedal or tuner pedal then?

EDIT: i just bought a dominate tuner tu3. Going to selection it up this afternoon.

I mentioned a tuner, though all Dominate pedals are buffered pedals-- and then whatever Boss pedal would do actually, simply it's a relatively cheap solution, and I figured a tuner is useful in and of itself, and solved the buffer issue, so mentioned information technology 1st because it was an easier solution than to mod your wah, likely adding a buffer would be among the mods you would add together anyway.

I would suggest running guitar, echo, wah, Heave, tuner, amp Input. If your amp has a series fx loop, I'd run the echo in the loop. Then it would be guitar, wah, heave, tuner, amp input westward/ the echo in the loop ship/return.

Allow me know how information technology goes.

:cheers:

zachman · Oct 25, 2020

Of class only as a bit of irony the Fuzz Face up is a truthful bypass event. Sometimes a buffer can be useful if you want to run a wah in front of a Fuzz Face and still take a useable sweep.

How and why would a buffer touch on the sweep of the wah, regardless of if run in front end of (or subsequently) a Dallas fuzz with the wah being 1st?

Running a buffer before or after the wah but in front end of the Dallas fuzz would eliminate the loftier impedance reactance betwixt the passive guitar pickups and the Dallas fuzz, so the fuzz wouldn't clean up when you lot gyre dorsum the volume on the guitar-- similar they do, only running a buffer before or after the wah, and before or after the Dallas fuzz-- it wouldn't and shouldn't touch the sweep of the wah at all, every bit I understand your description. What am I missing?

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